Partnering with Other Neighborhood Pools to Make $7500 or More in Extra Guest Fees Posted on June 4, 2018February 20, 2019 by Justin at PoolDues [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Recently, my pool’s main pump broke so we were out of commission for a few days. Using my “secret network of fellow Social Directors,” I quickly got in touch with two other nearby pools to ask that our members be allowed to swim there in our time of need. One put it to a quick Board vote via email and the other just cleared it with their President who said, “sure, why not”. So, within a few hours, we had two equally great back-up pools. This showed some awesome neighborhood camaraderie, and as the downtime crept into the weekend, everyone had a blast inter-mingling on Saturday and Sunday. Keep in mind, these are neighborhood pools, so parents all knew each other from school connections, church, synagogue, little league, the local watering holes, you name it. So it wasn’t like strangers were forced to swim with each other for a few days. My city, Dunwoody, considers itself one big neighborhood (their unofficial motto), and that’s exactly what this felt like: one big neighborhood get-together. Which got me thinking that our pools need to intermingle more often. So, how do we best co-mingle pools? The first thing to consider is how to make sure only members are visiting other member-only pools…. [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Get member’s wearing wristbands (if they don’t already) [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] I think every neighborhood pool needs to issue wristbands for their members. 300 wristbands is only about $100. And yes, it’s a pain to distribute these to members, but that’s why you ask for a volunteer to do this once-a-year thing. If your club sends out newsletters announcing 3 or 4 “wristband handouts,” which could even be at a member’s house from say, 5pm-7pm, you should be able to get them into most members’ hands. With our club, we always have some stragglers that don’t pick theirs up, but when that list gets down to only 15 or so families, we just start dropping them in mailboxes. As much as your Pool Dues-powered Member Check In app can do, it can’t stop gate-crashers as well as a wristband can (nor can a paper sign-in book for that matter). You need something that’s easily identifiable on EVERY member above a certain age that screams “I belong here”. Now if you do an occasional inter-pool event (or if your pool’s pump breaks), the pool receiving strangers will know for sure those are banded-members from your pool. [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] When to organize inter-pool get-togethers? [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Obviously, that’s going to be something you and your like-minded neighboring pool(s) will need to discuss. Here are some thoughts… Particular events. For example, a pool volleyball tournament, your Adult Night Parties, Teen Night parties, a Mommy’s Morning Out, etc. A particular day of the week. For example, Wednesdays. You don’t want to pack too many neighboring-members in on a busy weekend, but let’s face it, even the busiest of pools usually aren’t that busy during the work week. Or how about this… [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Create a Sister-Club Network with Revenue Share [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Find 3 or 4 neighboring pools that have wrist-banded members and similar yearly dues. Propose to them that Monday-Thursday members can use any pool within the “sister club” network. Essentially you’re making it so guest fees are waived for members of your sister clubs. But as we all know, most clubs rarely enforce their own guest fees and barely make any money off cash boxes anyway (though that’s something your Pool Dues portal can solve). Here’s the key part. This isn’t free. This is an add-on fee only available to members of those 3 or 4 clubs (again, a perfect fit for your Pool Dues portal). Our yearly membership is $550. As a father of 4 kids (almost 5 now), I would pay as much as $100 more to visit 3 or 4 other pools in the summer. I know my kids would love to vary which pool we visit. Different pools mean different playgrounds, high dives, maybe even water slides. And as a parent, I’d love the social aspect of meeting other parents in the community. So let’s suppose 4 pools did this. They have 1000 families between them. Now let’s assume 300 families paid $100 more for the Sister Pool Network option. Are you ready for some math… That’s $30,000. Split 4 ways that’s $7,500 per pool. [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/6″ el_position=”first”] [spb_image_banner image=”881″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”2/3″ el_position=”last”][/spb_image_banner] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_divider type=”standard” text=”Go to top” top_margin=”0px” bottom_margin=”30px” fullwidth=”no” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Win-Win for Pools and Members…. [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] 1. Can you say your pool made $7500 in guest fees last year? Or $5000 or even $2500…. Probably not. And your club definitely did not make that much money from people that already had a home club nearby. Most of your guest fees probably come from out of town guests, birthday parties, adult friends, etc. They do not come from people swimming 1 mile away. 2. It costs nothing to try. It’s just an extra Cart option you can add to your payment portal. 3. If you limited the days to Monday-Thursday that members could hop pools, that still leaves your peak days (Friday-Sunday) exclusive to members. Which also ensures that prospective members are still going to favor their closest pool. 4. This add-on feature also becomes a huge perk to your membership in general. [/spb_text_block]
Why a Kegerator is the Perfect Crowd-Funded Purchase for a Pool or Tennis Club Posted on June 1, 2018February 20, 2019 by Justin at PoolDues [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] First off, should your club get a kegerator? Heck yes!…. [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] It’s a HUGE member perk. We’ve even had prospective members ask before joining if we had one. If you are already hauling in half-barrel or even pony-size kegs to the club, you know it’s a race against the clock to finish it before closing time. Again, if you are already providing occasional kegs, you know buying ice isn’t cheap (and it’s a huge waste). 20-pound bags are about $5 and you need at least 3 or 4 of them to reliably keep a keg cold in the summer. Getting someone to volunteer to be Kegerator Director is easy. I guarantee there’s someone in your club that already has a home kegerator. [/spb_text_block] [spb_divider type=”standard” text=”Go to top” top_margin=”0px” bottom_margin=”30px” fullwidth=”no” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Board Approval [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”2/3″ el_position=”first”] This is the tough part. You’ve got two hurdles to overcome here. Who pays for it? The “Think of the children” pushback. The first part is easy – make it a crowd-funded purchase. The second part is what will cost you votes “for” if you aren’t prepared. There’s probably going to be at least one Board Member worried about the optics of having a kegerator at the club. Innocent child eyes will see members imbibing. Well, the fact is, they are already are seeing it – adults bring their own drinks to the pool all the time. At my club, our recycling bins were full to the brim with beer cans. Members don’t hold back, keg or no keg. So what’s worse for young eyes? Seeing members pull out can after can of Bud Light or occasionally visit a nondescript black refrigerator and pour something into a red cup? [/spb_text_block] [spb_image_banner image=”826″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”1/3″ el_position=”last”][/spb_image_banner] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] The other half of that pushback is better phrased, “Think of the teens”, and that’s a far more reasonable pushback. You will need a locking tap, which is about $20 on Amazon. Door locks are also available to prevent access to the keg itself. Kegerators also have wheels so you can easily roll them in and out of a locked part of your club. [/spb_text_block] [spb_divider type=”standard” text=”Go to top” top_margin=”0px” bottom_margin=”30px” fullwidth=”no” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Crowd-Funding for a Kegerator (or anything at your pool) [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] So let’s go back to who pays for the kegerator. If the club is on a tight budget, simply make the members that want a kegerator pay for it. Heck, even if your club isn’t on a tight budget, make the members that want a kegerator pay for it. This will set a nice precedent that IF members want something that not every member will use, they have the freedom to fundraise for it. A kegerator is the perfect example. The club as a whole isn’t going to drink from it, so the club as a whole shouldn’t be responsible for paying for it. [/spb_text_block] [spb_divider type=”standard” text=”Go to top” top_margin=”0px” bottom_margin=”30px” fullwidth=”no” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Taking Donations [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”2/3″ el_position=”first”] Obviously, you can go old-school and try to pass a hat around to pay for a kegerator, but cash in a hat doesn’t really work well with a social media announcement or club newsletter mailing. Here’s where your Pool Dues portal fits in perfectly. And by the way, we can set up a kegerator donation product right off the bat for you (or any donation style product). Here’s what worked really well for my club… Create a product with a suggested price of $20. Include a Name-Your-Price option with a minimum amount above the suggested price (see the pic for reference). Send out a newsletter mailing announcing that the club can get a kegerator IF it is crowd-funded. Wait a week or so then use your club’s social media channels (Facebook Group, Twitter, whatever you got). Repeat steps 3 or 4 if need be. [/spb_text_block] [spb_image_banner image=”830″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”1/3″ el_position=”last”][/spb_image_banner] [spb_divider type=”standard” text=”Go to top” top_margin=”0px” bottom_margin=”30px” fullwidth=”no” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Showing Donation Progress [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_column col_sm=”8″ padding_horizontal=”0″ width=”2/3″ el_position=”first”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Our kegerator was $468, and after the first newsletter mailing we got about half way to our goal. In fact, after our first 3 donations, we got to $120 because one person donated $80 using the Name-Your-Price option. Our club has a Men’s Only Facebook Group, so about a week after the club newsletter, we posted in the Group and quickly exceeded our goal (which paid for the locking-tap and the first couple kegs). And obviously, our Treasurer could easily keep tabs on who donated and how much. The picture to the right shows some of the reporting from the Pool Dues backend. At this point, the club hadn’t yet been using our Member Check In app, but if they had been, they could have seen real-time progress of how much had been raised. [sf_fullscreenvideo type=”text-button” btntext=”Watch a Short Video on Social Updates with Donation Progress” imageurl=”” videourl=”https://vimeo.com/268071127″ extraclass=””] [/spb_text_block] [/spb_column] [spb_image_banner image=”839″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”1/3″ el_position=”last”][/spb_image_banner] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] How to Keep a Kegerator Funded? [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”2/3″ el_position=”first”] Again, here’s where your Member Check In app and Pool Dues payment portal is going to come in handy. We’ve added a laminated sign on the wall by our kegerator reminding people that they should occasionally chip in. Of course, the beer drinkers know who they are, and if they want to keep the beer flowing, they also know they’ll need to chip in. All your club needs to do is make it easy to pay. For resupplies, you probably don’t need to ask for $20 at a time though (which was the initially suggested donation for the kegerator). Instead, your Pool Dues portal includes a “Day of” donation option, with prices in $5 increments. [/spb_text_block] [spb_column col_sm=”4″ padding_horizontal=”0″ width=”1/3″ el_position=”last”] [spb_image_banner image=”844″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”][/spb_image_banner] [spb_image_banner image=”848″ image_size=”full” content_pos=”left” content_textalign=”left” animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ link_target=”_self” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”][/spb_image_banner] [/spb_column]
How to Get Free Stuff for Your Neighborhood Pool Posted on May 30, 2018February 20, 2019 by Justin at PoolDues [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Have something of value to return in exchange… [/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=”30px” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Most neighborhood pools get some income from Swim Team sponsorships, which is either a monetary donation or product donation (which the pool sells, like pizza at a swim meet). But once those Swim Team t-shirts are printed and poolside banners hung, it’s usually game over for fund-raising. But that doesn’t need to be the case. Your pool probably averages 100-150 families, so including spouses, that’s around 250-300 people in the community. Local companies are looking for exactly those people to advertise to, and many of those same companies offer services your pool could tap into for events. So why not work out a trade? You first need to figure out a Social Media package for potential advertisers. Think about what you already have… 1. The Pool Mailing List. You have quality email subscribers that aren’t going to run to the unsubscribe button if you help a local business advertise. You could offer a one-time mailing specifically about a particular company or include their logo in the footer of every email for a certain amount of time (probably 1 year). [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”2/3″ el_position=”first”] 2. Facebook. Your pool should already have a thriving Facebook Group, (not a Page, a Group) where your pool posts frequently and so do members. You can offer to advertise for companies there, in a kind of “shout out” format. For example, see the image to the right. We trade bug spraying services with a local company and in return give them what we would for a Swim Team Sponsor. Creating a group Event on Facebook is also another great promotional tool. So if a local company has an event coming up, for example, a car dealership might have some special weekend promotion, you could create an event in your group for them. Events are especially useful promos because members will usually get some kind of notification on their phone that the event is coming up (usually the day before). You can suggest to members that they like a local business’s Facebook Page or join a Group that the business runs. [/spb_text_block] [spb_image image=”794″ image_size=”full” frame=”noframe” caption_pos=”hover” remove_rounded=”yes” fullwidth=”no” overflow_mode=”none” link_target=”_self” lightbox=”no” intro_animation=”none” animation_delay=”200″ width=”1/3″ el_position=”last”][/spb_image] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] 3. In-App Advertising. If you are a Pool Dues-powered pool, you can put local businesses into your Member Check In app. So, the more you encourage members to check in via the app, the more opportunities those members have to visit your local sponsors. Plus just showing potential sponsors that you have an app looks pretty darn slick. We successfully reached out to an inflatable company for a free bounce house recently, with this email (and attached the image below)… [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”52″ margin_vertical=”59″ custom_css=”margin-top: 59px;margin-bottom: 59px;padding-left: 52px;padding-right: 52px;background-color:#e6dfdf;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” back_color_global=”#e6dfdf” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] Subject: Advertising at Pool in Exchange for Wet Slide Rental this Friday Body: Hi! I’m Social Director at [fill in your pool / website]. We’re looking for a large wet slide this Friday night, and we’d love to do an in-kind trade here. We could add a large banner poolside for your company and add you to our Social Media Advertising package, which includes a top advertising spot in our Member Check In app. We require members to check in from their phones now, and when they do so, they end up on a page of Pool Sponsors (example image attached). This has been a big hit with local advertisers, so we think there’s quite a lot of value in it. And obviously a [fill in city name] pool full of parents is exactly who you want to advertise to. As we’re looking to do this Friday night, we would need to know soon if you are interested. We’re coming to you first because we’ve seen you support community groups like ours. We would consider your company a Gold Sponsor (normally a $550 value) in exchange for the free wet slide. Here’s more info about what you’ll receive… [link to details on your site / Pool Dues Portal] Thanks, [your name] Attach this Image: [/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=”none” animation_delay=”0″ simplified_controls=”yes” custom_css_percentage=”no” padding_vertical=”0″ padding_horizontal=”0″ margin_vertical=”0″ custom_css=”margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;” border_size=”0″ border_styling_global=”default” width=”1/1″ el_position=”first last”] That’s an easy email to fire off, and if the company is interested it’s win-win for everyone. Or worst case, they just ignore it, and you move onto the next business. [/spb_text_block]